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mT.
09.09.2010 um 21:21
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Hi Leute,
ich wollte mal fragen ob man nur einzelnd die Grafikkarte mit wasser kühlen kann ohne groß was umzubauen also nicht so wie ich das immer sehen das zb. n extra behälter auserhalb des pc´s oder so.
Schonmal danke an alle die Antworten
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IceTea
09.09.2010 um 21:40
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man kann den behälter intern einbauen aber du brauchst n radiator pumpe den ausgleichsbehälter und musst viel passive kühlung auf den ram etc packen^^

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kruecke'
09.09.2010 um 21:44
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Wasserkühlung hat seine Pro's und Contras. Auch wenn du ne Wasserkühlung hast brauchst du Lüfter. 9 an der Zahl, wenns ne gute ist. Klar kühlt der PC mehr, aber wirklich leiser ist er nicht.

Einzelne Teile bringen rein gar nichts, da du wie schon erwähnt Radiator etc brauchst.

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BlackNoir2
09.09.2010 um 21:47
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so bevor hier noch mehr unfug geschriebn wird ...

http://www.computerbase.de/forum/sh...ad.php?t=361543

http://www.computerbase.de/forum/sh...926#post3790926

lesen und nein nur die gpu zu kühlen macht kaum/wenig sinn
 
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kruecke'
09.09.2010 um 21:55
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Okay, das war mir neu das es passive Wasserkühlung gibt.
 
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WolleTD
09.09.2010 um 22:02
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Wolle aka Gnu
Magst du mir erzählen was genau du mit 9 (!!) Lüftern bei ner Wasserkühlung vor hast?
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BlackNoir
09.09.2010 um 22:02
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die gibt es schon länger nur sind die groß, teuer und recht ... leistungsschwach

und wer behauptet das man mit ner wakü nen rechner nicht leise bekommt hat sowas von keine ahnung

nen 3x 140 radi mit geregelten lüftern + nen geregelten 12 bekommt jedes system leise in den griff, gesetzt dem fall man nimmt geld in die hand und kauft gute kompuneten

[Editiert von BlackNoir am 09.Sep.2010 um 22:05]
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WolleTD
09.09.2010 um 22:09
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wo wir grad dabei sind: ist dieser Lüfter zu empfehlen? Klar kostet der etwas Geld... aber ist natürlich auch Lautstärke/Airflow-technisch gut dabei...
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DeathForce
09.09.2010 um 22:29

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WolleTD hat folgendes geschrieben:
Magst du mir erzählen was genau du mit 9 (!!) Lüftern bei ner Wasserkühlung vor hast?

genau wegem dem satz hab ich vorm antworten erstmal abgewartet
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kruecke'
09.09.2010 um 22:44
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Ich kannte bisher nur Radiatoren mit 9 Lüftern. Sind halt die großen Brecher, DIESE sind auch dementsprechend laut. Da ich mich nicht weiter mit der Materie befasst habe, kam ich dann zu diesem Schluss. *kopf einzieh und weg*
 
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BlackNoir
09.09.2010 um 22:50
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@WolleTD

die haben bei ner menge test gut abgeschnitten, sollen nur etwas schwach auf der brust sein persönliche erfahrungen habe ich aber leider nicht mit denen

was ich dir persönlich nahe legen kann sind die hier

die 120 von denen wurdem im hwluxx erst ausgezeichnet

@kruecke'

klingt bissel böse von mir, aber du hast keinen dunst oder?

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kruecke'
09.09.2010 um 23:01
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Ähm Schon. Wasserkühlung ist nur nicht mein glänzgebiet.
Wie kommst du darauf? Es gibt Radiatoren mit 9 Lüftern, diese sind auch um einiges Lauter. Zumindest sind sie deutlich hörbarer als das was ich hier rumstehen hab.

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BlackNoir
09.09.2010 um 23:08
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die anzahl der hersteller die solche radis herstellen kann man an einer hand abzählen, 2 fallen mir ein ...

und es ist nun wirklich nicht die norm die teile zu verbauen ganz zu schweigen das 9 auf 5v geregelte nosieblocker s2 (wie sie in den kreisen gerne verbaut werden) nicht zu hören sind ...

die gute norm sind 360 (3 mal zu bestücken mit nem 120 lüfter) radis ... was in der regel völlig ausreichend ist

man siehe sich die zusammenstellungen von burnout150 an abgesehen vom mo-ra3 im unanständig teurem system entdecke ich nix dergleichen =)

meiner meinung nach trifft es also nicht ganz den sinn der frage wenn man sowas als beispiel anführt

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IceTea
10.09.2010 um 15:26
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ich habe das erste ma von so riesigen radiatoren gehört Ookann ich vllt mal n link bekommen=???

aber was ich zimlich geil finde sind diese WaKü systeme

zwei davon (eine cpu und eine graka) und man hat nie wieder sorgen das der rechner warm wird... natürlich braucht man dann noch einen 2. rechner für die gsh XDXDXD aber das sollte dann auch kein problem mehr sein wenn man sic sowas leisten kann Oo
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10.09.2010 um 15:54
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IceTea
10.09.2010 um 15:57
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ne iwi nicht du dieb!!!
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BlackNoir
10.09.2010 um 16:14
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hol schon mal die taschentücher raus

http://www.aquatuning.de/index.php/...55_4x180mm.html

http://www.aquatuning.de/index.php/...00_9x120mm.html

hier ^^
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lol BILDERDIEB! xD
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0.169777 - admin::hasRight              -> check for adminright: >0:0 & 32< FALSE
0.169781 - admin::getInstance           -> do
0.169787 - admin::hasRight              -> check for adminright: >0:0 & 16777216< FALSE
0.169791 - admin::getInstance           -> do
0.169797 - admin::hasRight              -> check for adminright: >0:0 & 64< FALSE
0.169840 - HTML::template               -> template: >forum_postingpart<
0.169881 - FORUM::is_moderator          -> for forumid: 2
0.169886 - admin::getInstance           -> do
0.169893 - admin::hasRight              -> check for adminright: >0:0 & 32< FALSE
0.169897 - admin::getInstance           -> do
0.169903 - admin::hasRight              -> check for adminright: >0:0 & 16777216< FALSE
0.169907 - admin::getInstance           -> do
0.169913 - admin::hasRight              -> check for adminright: >0:0 & 64< FALSE
0.169938 - HTML::template               -> template: >forum_postingpart<
0.170000 - HTML::encode                 -> __________________[url=https://www.sysprofile.de/id46377]CPU...
0.170130 - HTML::encode                 -> replace run 1
0.170155 - HTML::encode                 -> replace run 2
0.170172 - FORUM::is_moderator          -> for forumid: 2
0.170177 - admin::getInstance           -> do
0.170184 - admin::hasRight              -> check for adminright: >0:0 & 32< FALSE
0.170188 - admin::getInstance           -> do
0.170195 - admin::hasRight              -> check for adminright: >0:0 & 16777216< FALSE
0.170199 - admin::getInstance           -> do
0.170205 - admin::hasRight              -> check for adminright: >0:0 & 64< FALSE
0.170248 - HTML::template               -> template: >forum_postingpart<
0.170284 - HTML::encode                 -> __________________"Ich bin ein .signature Virus. Mach' mit u...
0.170341 - HTML::encode                 -> replace run 1
0.170385 - HTML::encode                 -> replace run 2
0.170406 - FORUM::is_moderator          -> for forumid: 2
0.170410 - admin::getInstance           -> do
0.170418 - admin::hasRight              -> check for adminright: >0:0 & 32< FALSE
0.170422 - admin::getInstance           -> do
0.170441 - admin::hasRight              -> check for adminright: >0:0 & 16777216< FALSE
0.170445 - admin::getInstance           -> do
0.170452 - admin::hasRight              -> check for adminright: >0:0 & 64< FALSE
0.170486 - HTML::template               -> template: >forum_postingpart<
0.170518 - FORUM::is_moderator          -> for forumid: 2
0.170523 - admin::getInstance           -> do
0.170530 - admin::hasRight              -> check for adminright: >0:0 & 32< FALSE
0.170534 - admin::getInstance           -> do
0.170540 - admin::hasRight              -> check for adminright: >0:0 & 16777216< FALSE
0.170544 - admin::getInstance           -> do
0.170551 - admin::hasRight              -> check for adminright: >0:0 & 64< FALSE
0.170572 - HTML::template               -> template: >forum_postingpart<
0.170602 - HTML::encode                 -> __________________"Ich bin ein .signature Virus. Mach' mit u...
0.170659 - HTML::encode                 -> replace run 1
0.170680 - HTML::encode                 -> replace run 2
0.170699 - FORUM::is_moderator          -> for forumid: 2
0.170703 - admin::getInstance           -> do
0.170711 - admin::hasRight              -> check for adminright: >0:0 & 32< FALSE
0.170715 - admin::getInstance           -> do
0.170721 - admin::hasRight              -> check for adminright: >0:0 & 16777216< FALSE
0.170725 - admin::getInstance           -> do
0.170732 - admin::hasRight              -> check for adminright: >0:0 & 64< FALSE
0.170773 - HTML::template               -> template: >forum_postingpart<
0.170821 - HTML::encode                 -> __________________[url=https://www.sysprofile.de/id46377]CPU...
0.170922 - HTML::encode                 -> replace run 1
0.170974 - HTML::encode                 -> replace run 2
0.171006 - FORUM::is_moderator          -> for forumid: 2
0.171010 - admin::getInstance           -> do
0.171017 - admin::hasRight              -> check for adminright: >0:0 & 32< FALSE
0.171021 - admin::getInstance           -> do
0.171028 - admin::hasRight              -> check for adminright: >0:0 & 16777216< FALSE
0.171032 - admin::getInstance           -> do
0.171038 - admin::hasRight              -> check for adminright: >0:0 & 64< FALSE
0.171074 - HTML::template               -> template: >forum_postingpart<
0.171106 - HTML::encode                 -> __________________[url=https://www.sysprofile.de/id10330][im...
0.171182 - HTML::encode                 -> replace run 1
0.171217 - HTML::encode                 -> replace run 2
0.171236 - FORUM::is_moderator          -> for forumid: 2
0.171240 - admin::getInstance           -> do
0.171254 - admin::hasRight              -> check for adminright: >0:0 & 32< FALSE
0.171258 - admin::getInstance           -> do
0.171264 - admin::hasRight              -> check for adminright: >0:0 & 16777216< FALSE
0.171268 - admin::getInstance           -> do
0.171275 - admin::hasRight              -> check for adminright: >0:0 & 64< FALSE
0.171303 - HTML::template               -> template: >forum_postingpart<
0.171358 - HTML::template               -> template: >forum_postingindex<
0.171455 - FORUM::showthread            -> check for moderator utils
0.171467 - FORUM::update_visit          -> forumid: 2 threadid: 2817 posttime: 2010-09-10 17:08:23
0.171535 - GLOBAL::end userspace        -> ---------------------------------------------
0.171591 - PAGE::render                 -> start rendering page layout
0.171596 - styles::getInstance          -> do
0.171602 - USER::check_for_new_messages -> return
0.171622 - HTML::template               -> template: >page_sitetitle<
0.171667 - dotSession::getInstance      -> do
0.171673 - styles::getInstance          -> do
0.171756 - HTML::template               -> template: >page_topbanner<
0.171789 - PAGE::get_shortmenu          -> return
0.171793 - styles::getInstance          -> do
0.171797 - dotSession::getInstance      -> do
0.171830 - SESSION::anz_onlineuser      -> return
0.171838 - dotDatabase::query           -> SELECT COUNT(DISTINCT userid, host, useragent) FROM session WHERE lastactivity > 1793414877
0.172116 - dotDatabase::query           -> SELECT COUNT(DISTINCT userid, host, useragent) FROM session WHERE lastactivity > 1793414877 AND userid!=0
0.172237 - HTML::template               -> template: >page_shortmenu<
0.172274 - PAGE::get_boxes              -> -------- side=left
0.172278 - styles::getInstance          -> do
0.172283 - GLOBAL::include              -> class.cbox.php
0.172305 - dotCommon::classload         -> require: /www/htdocs/w01a41dd/testlive.gsh-lan.com/www/includes/class.cbox.php
0.173177 - PAGE::get_boxes              -> -------- call: left::menu_news
0.173190 - CBOX::menu                   -> generate Menu Box >news<
0.173196 - admin::getInstance           -> do
0.173203 - HTML::template               -> template: >box_menu_bit<
0.173247 - HTML::template               -> template: >box_menu<
0.173291 - HTML::template_exists        -> search: >page_box_left< == 1
0.173306 - HTML::template               -> template: >page_box_left<
0.173341 - PAGE::get_boxes              -> -------- call: left::menu_info
0.173355 - CBOX::menu                   -> generate Menu Box >info<
0.173360 - admin::getInstance           -> do
0.173383 - HTML::template               -> template: >box_menu_bit<
0.173393 - HTML::template               -> template: >box_menu_bit<
0.173401 - HTML::template               -> template: >box_menu_bit<
0.173409 - HTML::template               -> template: >box_menu_bit<
0.173429 - HTML::template               -> template: >box_menu_bit<
0.173436 - HTML::template               -> template: >box_menu_bit<
0.173443 - HTML::template               -> template: >box_menu<
0.173460 - HTML::template_exists        -> search: >page_box_left< == 1
0.173471 - HTML::template               -> template: >page_box_left<
0.173483 - PAGE::get_boxes              -> -------- call: left::menu_lan
0.173489 - CBOX::menu                   -> generate Menu Box >lan<
0.173493 - admin::getInstance           -> do
0.173498 - HTML::template               -> template: >box_menu_bit<
0.173508 - HTML::template               -> template: >box_menu_bit<
0.173515 - HTML::template               -> template: >box_menu_bit<
0.173522 - HTML::template               -> template: >box_menu_bit<
0.173529 - HTML::template               -> template: >box_menu_bit<
0.173536 - HTML::template               -> template: >box_menu_bit<
0.173543 - HTML::template               -> template: >box_menu_bit<
0.173550 - HTML::template               -> template: >box_menu_bit<
0.173557 - HTML::template               -> template: >box_menu<
0.173575 - HTML::template_exists        -> search: >page_box_left< == 1
0.173585 - HTML::template               -> template: >page_box_left<
0.173597 - PAGE::get_boxes              -> -------- call: left::menu_turnier
0.173603 - CBOX::menu                   -> generate Menu Box >turnier<
0.173608 - admin::getInstance           -> do
0.173612 - HTML::template               -> template: >box_menu_bit<
0.173622 - HTML::template               -> template: >box_menu_bit<
0.173631 - HTML::template               -> template: >box_menu_bit<
0.173639 - HTML::template               -> template: >box_menu_bit<
0.173646 - HTML::template               -> template: >box_menu<
0.173661 - HTML::template_exists        -> search: >page_box_left< == 1
0.173671 - HTML::template               -> template: >page_box_left<
0.173683 - PAGE::get_boxes              -> -------- call: left::menu_communtiy
0.173704 - CBOX::menu                   -> generate Menu Box >community<
0.173708 - admin::getInstance           -> do
0.173712 - HTML::template               -> template: >box_menu_bit<
0.173723 - HTML::template               -> template: >box_menu_bit<
0.173744 - HTML::template               -> template: >box_menu_bit<
0.173751 - HTML::template               -> template: >box_menu<
0.173766 - HTML::template_exists        -> search: >page_box_left< == 1
0.173775 - HTML::template               -> template: >page_box_left<
0.173788 - PAGE::get_boxes              -> -------- call: left::menu_user
0.173794 - CBOX::menu                   -> generate Menu Box >login<
0.173798 - admin::getInstance           -> do
0.173802 - HTML::template               -> template: >box_menu_bit<
0.173811 - HTML::template               -> template: >box_menu_bit<
0.173818 - HTML::template               -> template: >box_menu<
0.173839 - HTML::template_exists        -> search: >page_box_left< == 1
0.173849 - HTML::template               -> template: >page_box_left<
0.173861 - HTML::template               -> template: >page_content_left<
0.173898 - PAGE::get_boxes              -> -------- side=right
0.173903 - styles::getInstance          -> do
0.173907 - GLOBAL::include              -> class.cbox.php
0.173911 - PAGE::get_boxes              -> -------- call: right::login
0.173917 - CBOX::login                  -> generate Box
0.173924 - HTML::template               -> template: >box_login<
0.173982 - HTML::template_exists        -> search: >page_box_right< == 1
0.173993 - HTML::template               -> template: >page_box_right<
0.174023 - PAGE::get_boxes              -> -------- call: right::party
0.174031 - CBOX::party                  -> generate Box
0.174036 - HTML::template               -> template: >box_event_nocurrent<
0.174088 - HTML::template_exists        -> search: >page_box_right< == 1
0.174099 - HTML::template               -> template: >page_box_right<
0.174109 - PAGE::get_boxes              -> -------- call: right::upcomingparty
0.174121 - HTML::template_exists        -> search: >page_box_right< == 1
0.174130 - HTML::template               -> template: >page_box_right<
0.174140 - PAGE::get_boxes              -> -------- call: right::buddylist
0.174147 - CBOX::buddylist              -> generate Box
0.174152 - HTML::template               -> template: >box_buddylist_notloggedin<
0.174193 - HTML::template_exists        -> search: >page_box_right< == 1
0.174204 - HTML::template               -> template: >page_box_right<
0.174214 - PAGE::get_boxes              -> -------- call: right::forum
0.174220 - CBOX::forum                  -> generate forum box
0.174224 - CBOX::forum_load_threads     -> load data
0.174255 - dotCommon::classload         -> require: /www/htdocs/w01a41dd/testlive.gsh-lan.com/www/includes/class.cache.php
0.174433 - CACHE::get                   -> cache: >topthreads< found
0.174551 - CBOX::forum_threads          -> list all threads in array
0.174561 - FORUM::thread_lastvisit      -> threadid: Array
0.174568 - admin::getInstance           -> do
0.174596 - HTML::template               -> template: >box_forum_bit<
0.174667 - HTML::template               -> template: >box_forum_bit<
0.174697 - HTML::template               -> template: >box_forum_bit<
0.174721 - HTML::template               -> template: >box_forum_bit<
0.174745 - HTML::template               -> template: >box_forum_bit<
0.174768 - HTML::template               -> template: >box_forum_bit<
0.174791 - HTML::template               -> template: >box_forum_bit<
0.174813 - HTML::template               -> template: >box_forum_bit<
0.174834 - HTML::template               -> template: >box_forum_bit<
0.174855 - HTML::template               -> template: >box_forum_bit<
0.174875 - HTML::template               -> template: >box_forum_bit<
0.174896 - HTML::template               -> template: >box_forum_bit<
0.174910 - HTML::template               -> template: >box_forum<
0.174973 - HTML::template_exists        -> search: >page_box_right< == 1
0.174987 - HTML::template               -> template: >page_box_right<
0.175005 - HTML::template               -> template: >page_content_right<
0.175049 - HTML::template               -> template: >page_content<
0.175099 - HTML::template               -> template: >page_impressum<
0.175132 - HTML::template               -> template: >page<
0.175313 - PAGE::render                 -> final

PHP Includes   : 27
DB Queries     : 22
Rendering Time : 0.176007

Includes PHP Files: 
 - /www/htdocs/w01a41dd/testlive.gsh-lan.com/www/forum/index.php
 - /www/htdocs/w01a41dd/testlive.gsh-lan.com/www/global.php
 - /www/htdocs/w01a41dd/testlive.gsh-lan.com/www/vendor/autoload.php
 - /www/htdocs/w01a41dd/testlive.gsh-lan.com/www/vendor/composer/autoload_real.php
 - /www/htdocs/w01a41dd/testlive.gsh-lan.com/www/vendor/composer/ClassLoader.php
 - /www/htdocs/w01a41dd/testlive.gsh-lan.com/www/vendor/composer/autoload_static.php
 - /www/htdocs/w01a41dd/testlive.gsh-lan.com/www/vendor/nikic/fast-route/src/functions.php
 - /www/htdocs/w01a41dd/testlive.gsh-lan.com/www/vendor/swiftmailer/swiftmailer/lib/swift_required.php
 - /www/htdocs/w01a41dd/testlive.gsh-lan.com/www/vendor/swiftmailer/swiftmailer/lib/classes/Swift.php
 - /www/htdocs/w01a41dd/testlive.gsh-lan.com/www/vendor/symfony/polyfill-ctype/bootstrap.php
 - /www/htdocs/w01a41dd/testlive.gsh-lan.com/www/includes/class.dotCommon.php
 - /www/htdocs/w01a41dd/testlive.gsh-lan.com/www/config.php
 - /www/htdocs/w01a41dd/testlive.gsh-lan.com/www/includes/class.dotDatabase.php
 - /www/htdocs/w01a41dd/testlive.gsh-lan.com/www/includes/class.page.php
 - /www/htdocs/w01a41dd/testlive.gsh-lan.com/www/includes/class.pageextends.php
 - /www/htdocs/w01a41dd/testlive.gsh-lan.com/www/includes/class.dotSession.php
 - /www/htdocs/w01a41dd/testlive.gsh-lan.com/www/includes/class.user.php
 - /www/htdocs/w01a41dd/testlive.gsh-lan.com/www/includes/class.styles.php
 - /www/htdocs/w01a41dd/testlive.gsh-lan.com/www/html/styles/gsh-lan-grey.php
 - /www/htdocs/w01a41dd/testlive.gsh-lan.com/www/includes/class.event.php
 - /www/htdocs/w01a41dd/testlive.gsh-lan.com/www/includes/class.admin.php
 - /www/htdocs/w01a41dd/testlive.gsh-lan.com/www/includes/class.prvmsg.php
 - /www/htdocs/w01a41dd/testlive.gsh-lan.com/www/includes/class.sitzplan.php
 - /www/htdocs/w01a41dd/testlive.gsh-lan.com/www/includes/class.forum.php
 - /www/htdocs/w01a41dd/testlive.gsh-lan.com/www/includes/class.html.php
 - /www/htdocs/w01a41dd/testlive.gsh-lan.com/www/includes/class.cbox.php
 - /www/htdocs/w01a41dd/testlive.gsh-lan.com/www/includes/class.cache.php